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link: http://sustainedaction.org/Notes/Omega_PtV.htm


(1)Omega Institute Tensegrity Workshop - May 26-29, 1995

Part V - Sunday evening, May 28 - Talks by the Chacmools

by Corey Donovan


With a rainstorm threatening, the Sunday night lecture was shifted from the tent to Omega's main hall. By 8:30 PM, the audience was solidly and cozily packed into this much smaller space.


(2)Florinda's Introductory Comments


Shortly after 8:30, Florinda came onto the stage to tell us that Carol Tiggs hadn't made it, despite the group's 'dreaming' and other efforts to get her there over the past few days. She explained that the others had elected her to be the one to give us this bad news because she was the smallest and we were therefore less likely to attack her. She then said that we would be hearing that evening from each of the Chacmools, who were now at the center of the Castaneda group's "new world." She said that Carol Tiggs "seems to be the group's energy source," and explained that she, Carol Tiggs and Taisha had taken the shape of a "tube," and were "tubing their energy to the Chacmools." She said that she and Taisha can tell when they travel that the Chacmools' energy is different now. Florinda said that the Chacmools' tales are Tales of Intent.


(3)Nyei Murez - on the Blue Scout


Nyei then came onstage and sat at a table to read to us a statement she had written about the Blue Scout.


"The Blue Scout is Carol Tiggs's daughter. Carol Tiggs gave birth to her. Her energy has a blue hue instead of the whitish one that most humans have. Castaneda found this blue-hued energy agglutination in the inorganic beings' realm. The Chacmools haven't been to that world yet but we feel its presence. The sorcerers' world has mysterious power that can be lived and experienced but not predicted. The inorganic beings' world is easy for females to get to, once their awareness has risen to waist level. The discipline this takes is not predicated on routine or practice, but on total inner silence. That is what the Chacmools haven't achieved yet."


(4)All the Chacmools assertedly sensed that the Blue Scout is "foreign." Nyei said that the Blue Scout is the love of her life; "a person and not a person." She described the Blue Scout as "brilliant, light, slim, ethereal, wolf-like and pretty. She has brilliant blue eyes, ears that hear all, and dresses impeccably but unpredictably. She is skilled at finding the most exquisite restaurant, piece of music, clothing or antique. She hones in on the truth, and is also skilled at letting you know your deepest secret or uncovering your heart's desire. She's a mean imitator of Nelida [? my notes are garbled as to the name] and can cook a mean feast."


(5)Nyei first met Carol Tiggs and the Blue Scout at a Tensegrity workshop to which Florinda had invited Nyei. [Note: this first meeting was presumably pre-1993, before they were using the term "Tensegrity" or giving workshops. Nyei is apparently referring to the invitation-only sessions at which Castaneda taught movements later known as Tensegrity.] Nyei was told that Carol Tiggs was the Blue Scout's mother. Since Nyei had heard that Castaneda's clan was into stalking and tricking people and "saw that Carol Tiggs looked only 25 (and seems to be getting younger)," Nyei was insistent that "I wasn't going to be fooled so easily." Nyei went up to the Blue Scout and asked her, "You're Carol Tiggs' mother, aren't you?"


(6)"The Blue Scout gets tinier as time goes on. She could be seven years old, and they estimate she might take 50 years to fully mature. She is exact, fastidious and temperamental. Castaneda says she's a pain in the neck. She angers easily, just like a seven-year-old, when you're being an asshole, but then forgets the next moment and invites you to go gambling with her to Las Vegas. The Blue Scout loves gambling, and used to bet on the horses while Carol Tiggs was gone. Now that Carol Tiggs is back, she is her mother 100%. The Blue Scout was also gone for about 10 years, from the chronological ages of seven to 17, returning about a year before Carol Tiggs did. During this time, Florinda and Castaneda took care of her."


(7)The clan allegedly found out that the Blue Scout had returned when they went to Mexico to see Florinda Grau ("Old Florinda"). "Castaneda brought the Blue Scout back to Los Angeles where he enrolled her in school. The Blue Scout was very upset by this development and didn't move or change position for 24 hours--a sign of her extreme anger." At the end of this period, however, she supposedly simply smiled and asked, "What do I have to do now?" Nyei claimed she had been in school in rural Mexico, but didn't know how to read or write. "They enrolled her in junior college, because the high school year had already begun. She is now working on her Ph.D. in social sciences--and somehow assimilates academic material using a totally different process than ouirs. "The Nagual [meaning Don Juan] took care of her during her early years. Where she went [into the Second Attention] she received a strange training that makes her naturally very commanding. As Castaneda says, the Blue Scout 'doesn't sweat.' Wherever she was, they must have pampered her to no end. She can change her speed very fast, and we sense that her speed is accelerating."


(8)"Although she is working on a Ph.D., she is still like a young girl, and develops terrible crushes on actors. One of her favorites is Bruce McComb from 'Kids in the Hall.'" Knowing how much the Blue Scout likes this guy, Castaneda introduced himself to him when he happened to run into him somewhere, and told him, "You have given us endless hours of pleasure." The actor pulled out the "Z" page from his address book and autographed it "to Scout." When Castaneda looked at the autograph, he saw that the man had signed it "Kevin McDonald" (i.e., another comedian from the show that Castaneda had mistaken for Bruce McComb). "Scout gets very involved when watching TV and, for example, will scream at a character to 'Go, go, go!'"


(9)"When not pleased, the Blue Scout can be a horrendous creature. Her true nemesis is the Orange Scout, with whom she often fights like crazy. The Blue Scout loves to take everybody to Disneyland and uses it to disentangle her filaments. She has affected the group energetically, often throwing 'energy darts' and then retreating. The Chacmools don't see or speak to her for months, and then she comes in and changes things, and shakes everything up." Nyei said the following images, which Nyei warned might seem dissociated, were inspired by the Blue Scout. "The Blue Scout helps us become more durable and more disciplined. She knows other assemblage points and moves us there. She is a flaming blue arrow, and you must gain her trust." Nyei also read the following passage about the Blue Scout, "Meet me at the cafe, just beyond the border, just beyond the sky. . . . . You must speak and your silence must only protect your own love and not your heart, which has been given to her already." [At this point, Nyei was visibly overcome by emotion and her eyes welled with tears. She paused for a moment to collect herself and continue.] "Strange beloved, agitation of an unknown memory. You dance a tango through our blood. Our blue dream, our butterfly who belongs to no one. For you, intent of everything."

Nyei concluded by saying that the Blue Scout had given herself the name "Claude."


(10)Renata Murez - on the Orange Scout


Renata then came onstage to tell us about the Orange Scout. Like Nyei, Renata read her comments.


"Castaneda found the Blue Scout in the universe of the Inorganic Beings. She had fallen prisoner there and couldn't leave. He did his utmost to free her, a blue unit of energy, that transformed interpretation of her into that of a seven-year-old girl. Castaneda nearly died as a result of the energy expended in freeing her. Carol Tiggs and don Juan brought him back, guided by the Blue Scout. What Castaneda didn't know at the time was that there was another unit of energy behind the Blue Scout--the Orange Scout--that was also trapped. Castaneda's effort freed her as well. Don Juan was very concerned, knowing that Carol Tiggs would have to give birth to free the Blue Scout. The matter of the Orange Scout was even more difficult, however, because no one wanted to help. Finally, Florinda said, 'Fuck it! I'll do it.'"


(11)"Leperchun" is the only name she goes by, a word Renata claimed means leprechaun in Spanish. Renata said that leprechaun was appropriate for the Orange Scout because she "belongs to the things of the earth." The Blue Scout, by contrast, "belongs to the air ethereal." The Orange Scout is "built like a fire hydrant, is strong as a bull, looks like a tiny little girl and is not fat, but is just extraordinarily dense" (energetically). "Both scouts do Tensegrity beautifully, but the Orange Scout also has big muscles. She has a tremendous sense of concreteness--she is ground materialized. The Orange Scout also won't move a finger unless you feed or pay her. The Scouts won't allow the Chacmools to teach the public, either, unless people pay them, since their energetic view is, 'Unless people "pay" through the nose, they won't "pay" attention.'"


(12)"The Blue Scout used to tell us she was caught in the Inorganic Beings' realm by her curiosity, whereas the Orange Scout was caught as punishment for her duplicity. But the Blue Scout is also a cosmic thief, even stealing roles and personas. In Phantom Theater, she once stole the role of Jesus and played it to the hilt. A dreaming emissary told them that both the scouts were stuck in the Inorganic Beings' world as a result of their duplicitousness. The Orange Scout just has to be bold in her thievery, because otherwise the thing in question will be taken by the Blue Scout. The Orange Scout is also 'Argentinean'--for no explicable reason, because Florinda is not, and the Orange Scout was not raised there. Yet she sings, moves and embodies the tango, channeling 'Mrs. Gretina,' a character who sings tango and is alcoholic. When she plays this role she 'balloons into a big woman,' when otherwise she's 'just a chubby twerp.'"


(13)"The relationship between the two scouts is complicated and intense. When they first see each other, they kiss and dance around together. In the next moment, they may be beating each other. We think they have been doing this for thousands of years. Castaneda said to tell you that the Orange Scout is very attached to me, whom she goes to regularly for advice and help with her school papers. Her physicality brings you into wherever she is. For a moment when I am with her, I find that I am no longer myself. The Orange Scout is younger than the Blue Scout on this plane. Don Juan used to say they were both about 7000 years old or more."


(14)Kylie Lundahl - on Phantom Theater


Kylie then took the stage. She first wanted to thank everyone who had made the weekend possible, including Tom Valenti, Michael Craft, and the chef and staff at Omega. She explained that they were all reading from notes "because we need to be very precise with our words--because words embody intent, and when we ad lib we end up putting ourselves into it, and we need to get out of it."


(15)She also explained that "It is important for us to state our names at the outset, in order to draw an energetic line from the unknown to us. Saying our names is a matter of asserting ourselves as warriors. When I state my name, an 'energetic affirmation' takes place, establishing that I alone am responsible for my actions."


(16)"Tonight Carol Tiggs couldn't come." She made it to Mexico City, but really wanted to come to Omega to use this workshop as an "echo chamber," to explain where she'd been during the 10 years that she was gone. "Carol Tiggs hadn't wanted to go to Mexico--where she needed translation for material that depends on subtlety. But she went there to practice telling the story of her experience. She manifested there, and didn't return as the Carol Tiggs we knew. That's why we are all working to bring her back." Carol Tiggs had taken the Chacmools to Tula--"not the dirty, modern-day city, but a quiet, ancient version--by bringing us into her dream. Taisha did the same with you last night, with the help of Globus and Phoebus. Before last night, the Chacmools didn't know about Taisha's inorganics. Whenever Taisha talks, however, there's always some kind of interference, whether it is trouble with the lights, sound, or something. The 'insect' that appeared on the slide of the Voladore last night didn't fly away . . . it disappeared! The strange 'insect' that matched up with the Flyer, like it was superimposed, was Globus and Phoebus."


(17)"For 30 years the disciples of the old Nagual remained in isolation. The only one who spoke was Castaneda. Carol Tiggs returned, which she wasn't supposed to do, since, according to tradition, the rule called for the Nagual Woman to go with the previous nagual's group, and to remain on the other side to help the new nagual's group across the void. But Carol came back instead of waiting to help them across. This changed everything dramatically for them. The old Nagual's disciples were now alone in the world, and they opened this world. Tensegrity is a result of that opening."


(18)"A most difficult thing is to let go of the ego. For that, one needs guts of steel. Don Juan gave his disciples one last legend. He told them a person would come to them who needed no introduction, from the least suspected quarters. Castaneda's group is already twelve women and four men. They call this person that don Juan predicted the 'electric warrior.' He also said that she [they believe it will most likely be a woman] will come 'at one minute to twelve,' when 'all the lights are dim, the musicians are gone, and it is time to die.' The sorcerers believe we die in order to live (unlike conventional reality's view that we live in order to die). Many have come into their world but leave because they can't take it. We doesn't discriminate. I just heard that one who left us--who had imagined herself to be the electric warrior, and who left because we didn't give her what she thought was the proper amount of 'respect'--is about to start teaching her own version of Tensegrity."


(19)Phantom Theater is an aspect of the sorcerers' way. "A Theater of the Real came into this line through the Nagual Julian, who had been an actor. Carol Tiggs's putting the Chacmools inside a bubble (or dream) and taking us to a quiet version of Tula was an example of Theater of the Real. Florinda opens the door with force, and Taisha and Carol Tiggs lead us to other worlds. The Phantom Theater likewise makes the assemblage point of the viewer move to a different place. The scouts created it to help the group 'slip through' and leave the familiar. The scouts write and direct the skits. The Orange Scout's skits are very bawdy, raw, irreverent and funny, while the Blue Scout's skits are sophisticated and ethereal. The Blue Scout, a great actor, writes great skits for Carol Tiggs, who is also a good actor."


(20)Two of the men in Castaneda's group, who are known as the "two elements," are "a famous writer and director"--Bruce Wagner--and "a prominent Hollywood agent"--Tracy Kramer. "They have been with the sorcerers of this lineage from the beginning, and are known as 'cyclic beings,' who are 'the here and now.' Because of the force of the scouts, every time they present a show, the people they invite are deeply affected. The scouts give the Chacmools minor roles in their theater. The Theater of the Real is for stalkers. They intend the character so totally real that it is truly frightening. Even though the skits are never meant to give offense, they are written by individuals who have examined our social order from an 'energetic' viewpoint. The Blue Scout wrote a skit with me as the mother of a baby who believed her child was a girl. In this particular skit, I gave birth to a huge, grotesque child, played by the Orange Scout. The Orange Scout wore a body suit, diaper and seemed to have no teeth, and rolled around on the floor. I was so frightened by the Scout's appearance I screamed. The two have a conversation, during which the baby's diapers are soiled. I take them off and discover a huge penis that the Orange Scout made that was about a foot-and-a-half long and hairy. I had to bend down and kiss the penis, as the script called for the players to worship the new boy child."


(21)Another skit that Castaneda enjoyed very much was entitled "Gordito, Gordito." It was about a young man, played by the Orange Scout, who stuffed herself in a way that made her look incredibly fat. Gordito goes to a clinic to lose weight. The doctor tells him, "We know how to make a male lose weight. We're going to put you in a room with a healer who will help you." It turns out to be a naked nymph, played by "one of the other Chacmools." The Orange Scout runs after her, "and the deal is, if he gets her, he can fuck her. But the nymph escapes and disappears." An angry Gordito comes back to the clinic, gets a similar routine from the doctor, and this time, when he sits alone in the examining room, out come two naked nymphs. He doesn't catch either of him. So he returns to the doctor and demands that, "this time, he either lose weight or be allowed to fuck the nymphs." The doctor says, "We have just the thing." While he's waiting alone in the room, out comes this Swedish gay man (Kylie) with a huge penis. He begins to chase Gordito and tells him, "If I catch you, I fuck you." Whereupon, Gordito finally loses the weight.


(22)Kylie claimed she hadn't gotten over her role in this skit, "which was when my hair was cut to its current [super short] length. I didn't want to play this role, but I would follow the Orange Scout and the rest to the end and beyond." The Orange Scout even calls me "Otto," and makes me put on a mustache and hat and dance the tango with her. "Whoever comes to the six week seminar will get a strong whiff of her tango. The Orange Scout has tango duels with 'Al Cerutti'" (Carol Tiggs), who is an insurance salesman, and "who you wouldn't believe is Carol Tiggs. They intend these irritating creatures so strongly that we have to pay them $175 to make them go away. The scouts won't do anything unless they're paid, saying it's the nature of the universe (although it doesn't matter the amount--whether many dollars or a penny). All the actors perform from inner silence. The other Chacmools are great actors, and Carol Tiggs is a great ham."



(1)Omega Institute Tensegrity Workshop - May 26-29, 1995

Part V - Sunday evening, May 28 - Talks by the Chacmools

by Corey Donovan


With a rainstorm threatening, the Sunday night lecture was shifted from the tent to Omega's main hall. By 8:30 PM, the audience was solidly and cozily packed into this much smaller space.


Pazar gecesi, bir yağmur fırtınası tehdiyle, ders, çadırdan, Omega salonuna aktarıldı. Öğleden sonra 8:30 civarında, bu kadar küçük bir alana, sağlam ve huzurlu bir seyirci grubu yerleşmişti.


(2)Florinda's Introductory Comments


Shortly after 8:30, Florinda came onto the stage to tell us that Carol Tiggs hadn't made it, despite the group's 'dreaming' and other efforts to get her there over the past few days. She explained that the others had elected her to be the one to give us this bad news because she was the smallest and we were therefore less likely to attack her. She then said that we would be hearing that evening from each of the Chacmools, who were now at the center of the Castaneda group's "new world." She said that Carol Tiggs "seems to be the group's energy source," and explained that she, Carol Tiggs and Taisha had taken the shape of a "tube," and were "tubing their energy to the Chacmools." She said that she and Taisha can tell when they travel that the Chacmools' energy is different now. Florinda said that the Chacmools' tales are Tales of Intent.


(2)Florinda'nın Tanıtıcı Açıklamaları


8:30'dan kısa bir süre sonra, Florinda bize konuşma yapmak için sahneye geldi. Carol Tiggs, grubun 'rüya görmesi' ve son birkaç gündür onu getirmek için sergiledikleri diğer çabalara rağmen ulaşamamış. Diğer kişiler Florinda'yı kötü haberleri veren kişi olması için seçmiş, çünkü o en küçük kişiymiş ve bu sebeple bizlerin ona saldırma ihtimali daha azmış. Florinda daha sonra konuşmasına devam etti ve akşam, Chacmool'ların her birinden konuşmalar dinleyecekmişiz ve Chamool'lar Castaneda grubunun 'yeni dünyası'nın merkezindeymiş. Carol Tiggs'de grubun enerji kaynağı gibi görünürmüş ve açıkladığına göre o, Carol Tiggs ve Taisha bir boru şeklini almışlar ve bu borudan enerjilerini Chacmool'lara göndermişler. Florinda'nın belirttiğine göre, Chacmool'lar yolculuk ettiği zaman, Florinda ve Taisha Chacmool'ların enerjisinin şimdi farklı olduğunu söyleyebilirmiş. Son olarakta, Chacmool'ların öyküsü, niyet öyküsüdür dedi.



(3)Nyei Murez - on the Blue Scout


Nyei then came onstage and sat at a table to read to us a statement she had written about the Blue Scout.


"The Blue Scout is Carol Tiggs's daughter. Carol Tiggs gave birth to her. Her energy has a blue hue instead of the whitish one that most humans have. Castaneda found this blue-hued energy agglutination in the inorganic beings' realm. The Chacmools haven't been to that world yet but we feel its presence. The sorcerers' world has mysterious power that can be lived and experienced but not predicted. The inorganic beings' world is easy for females to get to, once their awareness has risen to waist level. The discipline this takes is not predicated on routine or practice, but on total inner silence. That is what the Chacmools haven't achieved yet."


Nyei Murez - Mavi Öncü hakkında


Nyei, daha sonra sahneye çıktı ve Mavi Öncü hakkında yazdığı bir yazıyı okumak için masaya oturdu.


Mavi Öncü, Carol Tiggs’in kızıdır. Onu Carol Tiggs doğurdu. Onun enerjisi çoğu insanın sahip olduğu olduğu beyazımsı bir renk yerine mavi renkliydi. Castaneda buldu bu mavi renkli enerjiyi, inorganik varlıklar aleminde yapıştı. Chacmool’lar henüz o dünyada bulunamıyor fakat biz onun varlığını hissediyorduk. Büyücülerin dünyası esrarengiz güce sahiptir ki yaşanabilir ve deneyimlenebilir ama tahmin edilemez. İnorganik varlıkların dünyasında bulunmak, farkındalıklarını bir kez bel seviyesine yükselttiklerinde kadınlar için kolaydır. Disiplin, uygulama veya tekrara dayanmaz fakat tam bir iç sesizlikle olur. Chacmoolların henüz ulaşamadıkları budur.



(4)All the Chacmools assertedly sensed that the Blue Scout is "foreign." Nyei said that the Blue Scout is the love of her life; "a person and not a person." She described the Blue Scout as "brilliant, light, slim, ethereal, wolf-like and pretty. She has brilliant blue eyes, ears that hear all, and dresses impeccably but unpredictably. She is skilled at finding the most exquisite restaurant, piece of music, clothing or antique. She hones in on the truth, and is also skilled at letting you know your deepest secret or uncovering your heart's desire. She's a mean imitator of Nelida [? my notes are garbled as to the name] and can cook a mean feast."


Bütün Chacmool’lar mavi öncünün “yabancı” olduğunu algıladı. Nyei, “bir kişi veya bir kişi değil” Mavi Öncü’nün hayatının aşkı olduğunu söyledi. O, Mavi Öncü’yü “ parlak, ışıltılı, ince, ruhani, kurt-gibi ve sevimli " olarak tarif etti. Parlak mavi gözleri, her şeyi duyan kulakları ve mükemmel giyinen fakat tahmin edilemeyen. En nefis restoranı, bir parça müziği, kıyafeti veya antikayı bulmakta becerikli. O, gerçeğe odaklanır ve aynı zamanda yeteneklidir, bildiğiniz en derin sırrınızın veya kalbinizdeki arzunun açığa çıkmasına izin verirsiniz. Nelida’nın ortalama bir taklididir (? İsme gelince notlarım bozuldu) o ortalama bir ziyafet hazırlanabilir.



Paragrafın son cümlesi "can cook a mean feast." bir değim sanırım.


Ne anlama geldiğini de bulamadım internette.



Paragrafın son cümlesi "can cook a mean feast." bir deyim sanırım.


Ne anlama geldiğini de bulamadım internette.



hyau:

Paragrafın son cümlesi "can cook a mean feast." bir deyim sanırım.


Ne anlama geldiğini de bulamadım internette.



deyim olduğunu sanmıyorum, cümlenin devamı o, parantezden önce nokta yok, yani "She can cook a mean feast. "o ortalama bir ziyafet hazırlayabilir."

Bu cümleden önce parantez içinde şey demiş (isme göre benim notlar bozuldu(sanırım Nelida'dan bahsediyo)) yani kendiside aldığı notlara belli bir anlam yükleyememiş. Bizde bunları çevirmeye çalışıyoz :)

Bu adamın notları yüzünden öğrendiğim ingilizcede bozulcak, :)



:))))


Bunları mı çeviriyoruz derken aynı şeyi düşünmüşüz ama ben "ben de bir sıkıntı var" diye düşünüyordum.



(5)Nyei first met Carol Tiggs and the Blue Scout at a Tensegrity workshop to which Florinda had invited Nyei. [Note: this first meeting was presumably pre-1993, before they were using the term "Tensegrity" or giving workshops. Nyei is apparently referring to the invitation-only sessions at which Castaneda taught movements later known as Tensegrity. ] Nyei was told that Carol Tiggs was the Blue Scout's mother. Since Nyei had heard that Castaneda's clan was into stalking and tricking people and "saw that Carol Tiggs looked only 25 (and seems to be getting younger)," Nyei was insistent that "I wasn't going to be fooled so easily. " Nyei went up to the Blue Scout and asked her, "You're Carol Tiggs' mother, aren't you?"


Nyei ilk Carol Tiggs ile karşılaştı ve Florinda’nın Nyei’yi davet ettiği bir Tensegrity çalışmasında Mavi Öncüyle tanıştı. [Not: Bu ilk toplantı muhtemelen 1993 öncesi oldu, “Tensegrity” terimini kullanmalarından veya atölye çalışması vermelerinden önce. Nyei görünüşe göre yalnızca davetle yapılan oturumlardan söz ediyor. Castaneda Tensegrity olarak bilinen hareketleri daha sonra öğretiyordu.] Nyei Mavi Öncü’nün annesi Carol Tiggs ile konuştu. Castaneda’nın ekibinin sinsice yaklaştığını ve insanları kandırdığını duyduğundan beri ve Carol Tiggs’in sadece 25 yaşında göründüğünü görüdüğünde (ve giderek daha da gençleştiği görülüyor) Nyei ısrarla “Beni kadar kolay kandırmaları mümkün değil.” diyerek Nyei, Mavi Öncü’ye gider ve sorar “Sen Carol Tigg’in annesisin, değil mi?”



(6)"The Blue Scout gets tinier as time goes on. She could be seven years old and they estimate she might take 50 years to fully mature. She is exact, fastidious and temperamental. Castaneda says she's a pain in the neck. She angers easily, just like a seven-year-old, when you're being an asshole, but then forgets the next moment and invites you to go gambling with her to Las Vegas. The Blue Scout loves gambling, and used to bet on the horses while Carol Tiggs was gone.. Now that Carol Tiggs is back, she is her mother 100%. The Blue Scout was also gone for about 10 years, from the chronological ages of seven to 17, returning about a year before Carol Tiggs did. During this time, Florinda and Castaneda took care of her."


Mavi Scout zaman geçtikçe incelir. O yedi yaşında olabilir ve olgunlaşması, onların tahmine göre 50 yıl sürebilir. O tam anlamıyla zor beğenen ve maymun iştahlıdır. Castaneda onun bir baş ağrısı olduğunu söyler. O göt deliği bir varlık olduğunuzda sanki yedi yaşındaymış gibi kolayca sinirlenir fakat bir dakika sonra unutur ve onu Las Vegas’a kumar oynamak için davet edersen. Mavi Öncü kumarı sever Carol Tiggs gittiğinde atlarla bahis oynardı Şimdi Carol Tiggs geri döndü. %100 onun annesi. Mavi Öncü de yaklaşık 10 yıldır gitmişti kronilojik olarak yedi ile 17 yaşlarında Carol Tiggs dönmeden yaklaşık bir yıl önce döndü. Bu süre içinde Florina ve Castaneda onunla dikkatlice ilgilendi.



mavi öncü ganyan oynuyomuş demek,

ganyan bayileri inorganiklerin mekânı olmasın,



:))

Mavi oncu atlara fısıldayan adam



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(7)The clan allegedly found out that the Blue Scout had returned when they went to Mexico to see Florinda Grau ("Old Florinda"). "Castaneda brought the Blue Scout back to Los Angeles where he enrolled her in school. The Blue Scout was very upset by this development and didn't move or change position for 24 hours--a sign of her extreme anger." At the end of this period, however, she supposedly simply smiled and asked, "What do I have to do now?" Nyei claimed she had been in school in rural Mexico, but didn't know how to read or write. "They enrolled her in junior college, because the high school year had already begun. She is now working on her Ph.D. in social sciences --and somehow assimilates academic material using a totally different process than ouirs. "The Nagual [meaning Don Juan] took care of her during her early years. Where she went [into the Second Attention] she received a strange training that makes her naturally very commanding. As Castaneda says, the Blue Scout 'doesn't sweat.' Wherever she was, they must have pampered her to no end. She can change her speed very fast, and we sense that her speed is accelerating."


Ekip, iddiaya göre Florinda Grau’yu görmeye gittiğinde Mavi Öncüyü buldu. (Eski Florinda) Castaneda, Mavi Öncü’yü okula kaydettiği yerden Los Angles’e geri getirdi. Bu gelişmeden Mavi öncü çok üzgündü ve 24 saat süresince kıpırdamadı veya pozisyonunu değiştirmedi – aşırı bir öfke işareti veriyordu. Ancak bu sürenin sonunda sözüm ona hafifçe gülümsedi ve sordu “Şimdi ne yapmalıyım?” Nyei Mexico’nın kırsal bölgesinde okulda olduğunu fakat okuma ve yazma bilmediğini iddia etti. “ Onlar onu üniversiteye kaydetti. Çünkü lise zaten başlamıştı. O şimdi sosyal bilimlerde Ph.D’de çalışıyor ve her nasıl içselleştirdi ise akademik meteryali bizimkinden bütünüyle farklı bir şekilde kullanıyor. Nagual (anlamı Don Juan) onun ilk yılları süresince bakımına dikkat etti. O geldiğinde (ikinci dikkatin içinden), garip bir eğitim aldı, doğal olarak çok hükmedici oldu. Castaneda’nın söylediği gibi Mavi Öncü “Angarya” değil. Her nasılsa O oldu, Onlar onu sonsuza kadar şımartmalıydı. O hızını çok hızlı değiştirebilir ve biz onun hızı değiştiğine anlarız.



(8)"Although she is working on a Ph.D., she is still like a young girl, and develops terrible crushes on actors. One of her favorites is Bruce McComb from 'Kids in the Hall.'" Knowing how much the Blue Scout likes this guy, Castaneda introduced himself to him when he happened to run into him somewhere, and told him, "You have given us endless hours of pleasure." The actor pulled out the "Z" page from his address book and autographed it "to Scout." When Castaneda looked at the autograph, he saw that the man had signed it "Kevin McDonald" (i.e., another comedian from the show that Castaneda had mistaken for Bruce McComb). "Scout gets very involved when watching TV and, for example, will scream at a character to 'Go, go, go!'"


“O, Ph.D’de çalışıyor olmasına rağmen, hala bir genç kız gibidir ve aktörlere korkunç ilgi gösterir. Onun favorilerinden biri “Hall Kids'den” Bruce McComb.” Mavi Öncü’nün bu adamı ne kadar sevdiğini bilen , Castaneda, kendini ona tanıttı, “bize sonsuz zevkli saatler verdiniz” dedi. Aktör, adres defterinden “Z” sayfasını çıkardı ve onun için imzaladı “Öncü’ye”. Castaneda fotoğraftaki imzaya baktığında Adam’ın “Kevin McDonald” diye işaretlediğini gördü. ( i.e. gösteriden diğer komedyen Bruce McComb ile karıştırmıştı.) Öncü, Tv izlediği zaman çok ilgilidir, örneğin bir karaktere bağırabilir ‘git, git, git’



(9)"When not pleased, the Blue Scout can be a horrendous creature. Her true nemesis is the Orange Scout, with whom she often fights like crazy. The Blue Scout loves to take everybody to Disneyland and uses it to disentangle her filaments. She has affected the group energetically, often throwing 'energy darts' and then retreating. The Chacmools don't see or speak to her for months, and then she comes in and changes things, and shakes everything up." Nyei said the following images, which Nyei warned might seem dissociated, were inspired by the Blue Scout. "The Blue Scout helps us become more durable and more disciplined. She knows other assemblage points and moves us there. She is a flaming blue arrow, and you must gain her trust." Nyei also read the following passage about the Blue Scout, "Meet me at the cafe, just beyond the border, just beyond the sky. . . . . You must speak and your silence must only protect your own love and not your heart, which has been given to her already." [At this point, Nyei was visibly overcome by emotion and her eyes welled with tears. She paused for a moment to collect herself and continue.] "Strange beloved, agitation of an unknown memory. You dance a tango through our blood. Our blue dream, our butterfly who belongs to no one. For you, intent of everything."


Nyei concluded by saying that the Blue Scout had given herself the name "Claude."


Mavi Öncü keyifli olmadığı zaman korkunç bir yaratık olabilir. Onun gerçek düşmanı Turuncu Öncü’dür, kiminle diye sık sık deli gibi kavga eder. Herkesi Disneyland’a götürmeyi sever ve tellerini çözmek için onu kullanır. O grubun enerjisini etkiledi, sık sık “nerji dart” atar ve sonra geri çekilir. Chacmool’lar onunla aylarca görmez veya konuşmaz ve sonra o gelir bir şeyleri değiştirir ve herşeyi yerinden oynatır. Nyei görüntüleri izlediğini, parçalanmış gibi görünüyor olabilir diye uyardı , Mavi Öncü yaratıcıydı.

“Mavi Öncü, daha dayanıklı ve daha disiplinli hale gelmemiz için bize yardım eder. Diğer bileşim noktalarını bilir ve oraya taşımamızda bize yardım eder. O yanan mavi oktur ve onun güvenini kazanmalısınız.” Nyei, Mavi Öncü hakkında takip eden paragrafı da okudu “Benimle kafede buluştu, tam sınır ötesinde, tam gökyüzünün ötesinde….. Konuşmalısın ve sessizliğin kendi sevginde, senin tek savunman olmalı, ve kalbinde değil ki zaten ona verilmişti. [Bu noktada Nyei, gözle görülür bir şekilde duygulandı ve gözleri yaşlarla doldu. O, kendini toplamak için bir dakika durakladı ve devam etti.] “Garip sevgili, bilinmeyen hatıraların heyecanı. Kan bağmızı sayesinde sen Tango yapabilirsin. Bizim mavi rüyamız, kelebeğimiz, kimseye ait olmayan. Sizin için, herşeyin niyeti.

Nyei, Mavi Öncü’nün ona “Claude” ismini verdiğini söylerek sözlerini bitirdi.



(10)Renata Murez - on the Orange Scout

Renata then came onstage to tell us about the Orange Scout. Like Nyei, Renata read her comments.

"Castaneda found the Blue Scout in the universe of the Inorganic Beings. She had fallen prisoner there and couldn't leave. He did his utmost to free her, a blue unit of energy, that transformed interpretation of her into that of a seven-year-old girl. Castaneda nearly died as a result of the energy expended in freeing her. Carol Tiggs and don Juan brought him back, guided by the Blue Scout. What Castaneda didn't know at the time was that there was another unit of energy behind the Blue Scout--the Orange Scout--that was also trapped. Castaneda's effort freed her as well. Don Juan was very concerned, knowing that Carol Tiggs would have to give birth to free the Blue Scout. The matter of the Orange Scout was even more difficult, however, because no one wanted to help. Finally, Florinda said, 'Fuck it! I'll do it.'"


Renata Murez – Turuncu Öncü

Daha sonra Renata Turuncu Öncü hakkında bize bir şeyler anlatmak için sahneye geldi. Nyei gibi, Reneta yorumlarını okudu.

“Castaneda Mavi Öncü’yü İnorganik Varlıkların evreninde buldu. O esir düşmüştü ve kurtulamıyordu. Onu özgür bırakmak için elinden geleni yaptı, onun enerjisinin yorumlaması, enerjinin mavi bir birimi ki içinde yedi yaşında bir kızın bulunur. Castaneda, onu özgür bırakmak için neredeyse ölüyordu, enerjisini tüketinceye kadar harcadı. Carol Tiggs ve don Juan, Mavi Öncü’nün rehberliğinde onu geri getirdi. Castenada o anda Mavi Öncü’nün arkasında bir başka enerji birimi – Turuncu Öncü- olduğunu, yani tuzağa düşürüldüğünü, bilmiyordu. Onu Castaneda’nın çabası özgür bıraktı. Don Juan çok endişeliydi, biliyordu ki, Carol Tiggs, Mavi Öncü’yü doğurarak özgürlüğünü verecekti. Turuncu Öncü meselesi daha zordu, çünkü ne olursa olsun kimse yardım etmek istemiyordu. En sonunda Florinda, “Lanet olsun, ben yapacağım dedi”



(11)"Leperchun" is the only name she goes by, a word Renata claimed means leprechaun in Spanish. Renata said that leprechaun was appropriate for the Orange Scout because she "belongs to the things of the earth." The Blue Scout, by contrast, "belongs to the air ethereal." The Orange Scout is "built like a fire hydrant, is strong as a bull, looks like a tiny little girl and is not fat, but is just extraordinarily dense" (energetically). " "Both scouts do Tensegrity beautifully, but the Orange Scout also has big muscles. She has a tremendous sense of concreteness--she is ground materialized. The Orange Scout also won't move a finger unless you feed or pay her. The Scouts won't allow the Chacmools to teach the public, either, unless people pay them, since their energetic view is, 'Unless people "pay" through the nose, they won't "pay" attention.'"


Onun adı sadece 'Leperchun' diye geçermiş ve Reneta, İspanyolca bir kelime olduğunu söyledi. Reneta, "Leperchun, Turuncu Öncü için tam uygun bir isim, çünkü o, yeryüzüyle ilgili şeylere aittir. 'Havanın ruhuna ait' olan Mavi Öncü ile tam olarak zıttır. Turuncu Öncü, bir su tankı gibi yapılı ve bir boğa gibi güçlüdür, küçük bir kız gibi görünür ve şişman değildir, fakat olağan üstü yoğundur (enerjisel). Her iki Öncü’de Tensegrity’i mükemmel yapar, ayrıca Turuncu Öncü’nün kasları da iridir. Muazzam gerçekçi algıya sahiptir -- gerçeklik temeline dayanır. Turuncu Öncü'yü beslemez veya ona karşılığını vermezseniz, parmağını dahi asla kıpırdartmayacaktır. Ayrıca insanlar Chacmool'lara da karşılığını ödemezse, öncülerin ikiside Chacmool'ların insanlara birşeyler öğretmesine izin vermeyecektir. Bu durum onların enerjik bir görünümü bildiklerinden beri böyledir ve bu durum, 'insanlar kazıklanmadan, dikkatini birşeye vermeyecektir' tespitine dayanır."



11. paragrafın son cümlesi "unless people pay them, since their energetic view is, 'Unless people "pay" through the nose, they won't "pay" attention.'"


anlamlı olacak şekilde çeviremedim.



"pay through the nose" : bir deyim, "kazıklanmak, kazık yemek"

"pay attention" : "dikkatini vermek, ilgilenmek"



(12)"The Blue Scout used to tell us she was caught in the Inorganic Beings' realm by her curiosity, whereas the Orange Scout was caught as punishment for her duplicity. But the Blue Scout is also a cosmic thief, even stealing roles and personas. In Phantom Theater, she once stole the role of Jesus and played it to the hilt. A dreaming emissary told them that both the scouts were stuck in the Inorganic Beings' world as a result of their duplicitousness. The Orange Scout just has to be bold in her thievery, because otherwise the thing in question will be taken by the Blue Scout. The Orange Scout is also 'Argentinean'--for no explicable reason, because Florinda is not, and the Orange Scout was not raised there. Yet she sings, moves and embodies the tango, channeling 'Mrs. Gretina,' a character who sings tango and is alcoholic. When she plays this role she 'balloons into a big woman,' when otherwise she's 'just a chubby twerp.'"


Mavi Öncü merakından inorganik varlıklar aleminde yakalandığını halbuki Turuncu Öncü’nün hile yüzünden cezalandırılmak için yakalandığını bize söylerdi. Fakat karakter ve rol çalmada Mavi Öncü’de evrensel hırsız. Hayalet tiyatrosunda, İsa rolünü çaldı ve sapına kadar oynadı. Bir rüya elçisi, İki öncününde inorganik varlıklar aleminde iki yüzlülük yapmaları sonucunda sıkıştıklarını söyledi. Turuncu Öncü hırsızlıkta cesur olmak zorundaydı çünkü aksi takdirde, söz konusu şey mavi öncü tarafından alınacaktı. Turuncu Öncü ayrıca Arjantinlidir, açıklanabilir bir nedeni yok çünkü Florinda değil ve Turuncu İzci orada mayalanmadı. Oysa o Tango söyler, yapar ve ihtiva eder, tango söyleyen ve alkolik bir karakter olan Bayan Gretina’ya kanallık yapar. Bu rölü oynadığı zaman bir büyük kadın içinde kabarır, bunun dışında o sadece tombul aptaldır.



(13)"The relationship between the two scouts is complicated and intense. When they first see each other, they kiss and dance around together. In the next moment, they may be beating each other. We think they have been doing this for thousands of years. Castaneda said to tell you that the Orange Scout is very attached to me, whom she goes to regularly for advice and help with her school papers. Her physicality brings you into wherever she is. For a moment when I am with her, I find that I am no longer myself. The Orange Scout is younger than the Blue Scout on this plane. Don Juan used to say they were both about 7000 years old or more."


İki izci arasındaki ilişki, karmaşık ve yoğundur. Birbirlerini ilk gördüklerinde, öpüşürler ve birbirlerinin etrafında dans ederler. Bir sonraki an, birbirlerini dövebilirler. Biz onların bunu binlerce yıldır yaptıklarını düşünüyoruz. Castaneda size söylememi istedi, Turuncu Öncü bana çok bağlıdır, ona, düzenli olmasını tavsiye etmek ve okul kağıtlarına yardım etmek için gider. Onun görünüşü her ne olursa olsun sizi ikna eder. Ne zaman onunla birlikte olsam, kendimi bulum ki ben artık kendimde değilimdir. Turuncu Öncü bu düzlemde Mavi Öncü’den daha gençtir. Don Juan onların ikisininde 7000 yaşında veya daha fazla olduğunu söylerdi.



(14)Kylie Lundahl - on Phantom Theater


Kylie then took the stage. She first wanted to thank everyone who had made the weekend possible, including Tom Valenti, Michael Craft, and the chef and staff at Omega. She explained that they were all reading from notes "because we need to be very precise with our words--because words embody intent, and when we ad lib we end up putting ourselves into it, and we need to get out of it."


Kylie Lundahl – Hayalet Tiyatrosunda

Kylie daha sonra sahnedeki yerini aldı. O, ilk önce, bu haftasonunun gerçekleşmesini sağlayan, Tom Valenti, Michael Craft ve Omegadaki şef ve personeline, herbirine teşekkür etmek istedi. O, hepsinin notlardan okuduğunu açıkladı “Çünkü, kelimelerimizin çok hassas olmasına ihtiyaç duyuyoruz – çünkü kelimeler niyeti cisimleştirir ve biz doğaçlama yaptığımız zaman sonuna kadar içine kendimizi koyuyoruz ve kendimizi bunun dışına almamız gerekiyor.”



(15)She also explained that "It is important for us to state our names at the outset, in order to draw an energetic line from the unknown to us. Saying our names is a matter of asserting ourselves as warriors. When I state my name, an 'energetic affirmation' takes place, establishing that I alone am responsible for my actions."


“Başlangıçta isimlerimizi belirtmek, bizim için çok önemlidir, bize bilinmeyenden sıralı bir enerjik hat çizmekdir. ” diye ayrıca açıkladı. Adlarımızı söylemek bir savaşçı olarak kendimizi savunma meselesidir. İsmimi ifade ettiğim zaman, bir enerjik ‘onaylama meydana’ gelir, eylemlerimin sorumluluğunda yalnızım.”



(16)"Tonight Carol Tiggs couldn't come." She made it to Mexico City, but really wanted to come to Omega to use this workshop as an "echo chamber," to explain where she'd been during the 10 years that she was gone.

"Carol Tiggs hadn't wanted to go to Mexico--where she needed translation for material that depends on subtlety. But she went there to practice telling the story of her experience.

She manifested there, and didn't return as the Carol Tiggs we knew. That's why we are all working to bring her back." Carol Tiggs had taken the Chacmools to Tula--"not the dirty, modern-day city, but a quiet, ancient version--by bringing us into her dream.

Taisha did the same with you last night, with the help of Globus and Phoebus. Before last night, the Chacmools didn't know about Taisha's inorganics. Whenever Taisha talks, however, there's always some kind of interference, whether it is trouble with the lights, sound, or something. The 'insect' that appeared on the slide of the Voladore last night didn't fly away . . . it disappeared! The strange 'insect' that matched up with the Flyer, like it was superimposed, was Globus and Phoebus."


“Carol Tiggs bu gece gelemedi. Mexico City’ye ulaşabildi, ama, bu atölye çalışmasını bir 'yankı odası' olarak kullanmak için ve 10 yıl boyunca nereye gitmiş olduğunu açıklamak için, Omega’ya gerçekten gelmek istedi."

Carol Tiggs Meksika'ya gitmek istemedi -- mesela, ince eleyip sık dokumaya bağlı olan meteryaller için tercümeye ihtiyaç duyduğu yerler gibi. Fakat Carol, deneyimlerinin hikayesini anlatma pratiği yapmak için oraya gitti. Carol, bizim bildiğimiz Carol Tiggs olarak dönmedi ve bunu orada açıkça gösterdi. Bu nedenle, bizim onu geri getirmek için yaptığımız tüm çalışmaların nedeni budur." Carol Tiggs Chacmool'ları Tula'ya götürmüş -- günümüzün bozuk şehri değil, ama eski sakin versiyonu -- rüyasının içine alarak götürmüş.

"Taisha dün gece Globus ve Phoebus’ın yardımıyla, sizinle aynı şeyi yaptı. Önceki gece, Chacmool'lar Taisha'nın inorganikleri hakkında bişey bilmiyordu. Taisha'nın her anlatışında, nasıl olursa olsun, belli belirsiz bir şekilde ışıklarla, sesle yada bazı şeylerle ilgili sorun doğuran bir tür müdahale vardı. Dün gece, 'Uçucuların' slaytının üstünde ortaya çıkan 'haşere' uçup gitmedi... Ortalıktan kayboldu! Garip 'haşere' ile uçucu resmi örtüştü, onun üstüne koyulmuş gibi, Globus ve Phoebus resimdeki şekil olmuş gibiydi."



(17)"For 30 years the disciples of the old Nagual remained in isolation. The only one who spoke was Castaneda. Carol Tiggs returned, which she wasn't supposed to do, since, according to tradition, the rule called for the Nagual Woman to go with the previous nagual's group, and to remain on the other side, to help the new nagual's group across the void. But Carol came back instead of waiting to help them across. This changed everything dramatically for them. The old Nagual's disciples were now alone in the world, and they opened this world. Tensegrity is a result of that opening."


“30 yıldır Nagual’ın çömezlerinin izolsayonu kalktı. Yalnızca biri, Castaneda koşurdu. Carol Tiggs döndü ki yapması gerekmiyordu, çünkü geleneğe göre, Nagual kadın için Kural’ın çağrısı eski Nagual’ın grubu ile gitmek ve diğer tarafta kalmak, yeni Nagual’ın grubuna boşluğun karşısından yardım etmekti. Fakat Carol onları diğer tarafta yardım için beklemek yerine geri geldi. Bu onlar için her şeyi dramatik olarak değiştirdi. Eski Nagual’ın çömezleri dünyada yalnız şimdi ve bu dünya onlara açıldı. Tensegrity bu açıklığın sonucudur. “



(18)"A most difficult thing is to let go of the ego. For that, one needs guts of steel. Don Juan gave his disciples one last legend. He told them a person would come to them who needed no introduction, from the least suspected quarters. Castaneda's group is already twelve women and four men.They call this person that don Juan predicted the 'electric warrior.' He also said that she [they believe it will most likely be a woman] will come 'at one minute to twelve,' when 'all the lights are dim, the musicians are gone, and it is time to die.'

The sorcerers believe we die in order to live (unlike conventional reality's view that we live in order to die). Many have come into their world but leave because they can't take it. We doesn't discriminate. I just heard that one who left us--who had imagined herself to be the electric warrior, and who left because we didn't give her what she thought was the proper amount of 'respect'--is about to start teaching her own version of Tensegrity."


"En zor şey, egonun gitmesine izin vermektir. Bunun için, çelikten bir cesarete ihtiyaç var. Don Juan çömezlerine son bir 'mit' verdi. Don Juan'ın onlara bildirdiğine göre; en az şüphelenilecek yerden, kendini tanıtma ihtiyacı olmayanlara bir kişinin geleceğini söylemiş. Castaneda’nın grubu zaten 12 kadın ve 4 erkekten oluşuyor. Onlar Don Juan'nın kehanette bulunduğu bu kişiyi 'gerilimli savaşçı' diye isimlendirir. Don Juan ayrıca şöyle söylemiş; 'bu kadın [Onlara gelecek kişinin büyük ihtimalle bir kadın olacağına inanıyorlar.] onikiye bir dakika kala gelecek, bütün ışıkların sönükleşmeye başladığı, müzisyenlerin gitmiş olduğu, ölme zamanı.' demiş. Büyücüler, bizlerin yaşamak için öldüğümüze inanır (geleneksel gerçekliğin söylediği 'biz ölmek için yaşarız' görüşünün aksine). Büyücülerin dünyasına birçok kişi gelmektedir, ama ayrılır, çünkü onlar bu durumu kavrayamaz. Biz ayrımcılık yapmayız. Henüz yeni duydum, bizden ayrılan biri varmış -- bu kişi kendsinin 'gerilimli savaşçı' olduğunu sanıyordu ve ayrıldı, çünkü biz onun bu düşüncesine münasip ilgiyi göstermedik -- duyduğuma göre de, kendi versiyonuna ait Tensegrity hareketleri öğretmeye başlamış."



shalk, 16. ve 18. paragrafların tercümelerini kontrol eder misin?



düzeltmeler olcak, tekrar düzenleyip senin paragrafı gönderdiğin ilk yazının altına 'düzeltme' yazıp koyarım, tekrar inceleyip bakarız. Diğer paragraflarıda bu şekilde yaparım.

Arada ufak tefek kelime, cümle hatalarını yazmaktansa, komple düzeltilmiş şeklini koyacağım, senin çevirinide referans alarak.



16 ve 18 'in düzeltmelerini koydum. Düzeltmelerde uygun olmayan yerler dikkatini çekerse, tekrar düzenleriz.


18. paragrafta 'elektrikli savaşçı' ifadesi doğru ama komik duruyor :))

(elektrikle çalışıyor, benzinli değil falan diye espiri konusu olur:)) )

bunun yerine 'gerilimli savaşçı' ve 'heyecan verici savaşçı' tabirlerini buldum ve ilkini seçtim.



Senin tercümeni olduğu gibi aldım shalk :)



2.paragrafı, senin 1.paragrafın altına koydum.


3.paragrafın başlığında ve ilk cümlesinde sorun var sanırım, onların düzeltmelerinide altına koydum.



O da tamamlandı :)



(19)Phantom Theater is an aspect of the sorcerers' way. "A Theater of the Real came into this line through the Nagual Julian, who had been an actor. Carol Tiggs's putting the Chacmools inside a bubble (or dream) and taking us to a quiet version of Tula was an example of Theater of the Real.

Florinda opens the door with force, and Taisha and Carol Tiggs lead us to other worlds. The Phantom Theater likewise makes the assemblage point of the viewer move to a different place. The scouts created it to help the group 'slip through' and leave the familiar. The scouts write and direct the skits. The Orange Scout's skits are very bawdy, raw, irreverent and funny, while the Blue Scout's skits are sophisticated and ethereal. The Blue Scout, a great actor, writes great skits for Carol Tiggs, who is also a good actor."


Hayalet tiyatro, büyücülerin yolunun bir görünümüdür. Gerçeğin tiyatrosu, bir aktör olan Nagual Julian sayesinde bu çizgiye geldi. Carol Tiggs, bir baloncuk içinde (veya rüya), Chacmoolları içine koydu, Tula’nın sakin bir versiyonuna bizi alarak gerçeğin tiyatrosuna bir örnek oldu.

Florinda zorla kapıları açar ve Taisha ile Carol Tiggs diğer dünyalara doğru bize öncülük eder. Hayalet tiyatro ayrıca izleyicinin bileşim noktasını farklı bir yere taşır. Öncüler “kesintisiz kayma” ve alışkanlıkları bırakma yardımı, yaptı. Öncüler, skeçi yazdı ve yönetti. Turuncu Öncü’nün skeci, müstehcen, ham, saygısız ve komik iken Mavi Öncü’nün skeci entelektüel ve ruhanidir. Carol Tiggs için Mavi Öncü, büyük bir aktör, büyük bir skeç yazarıdır.



11.paragrafa düzeltme koydum.



(20)Two of the men in Castaneda's group, who are known as the "two elements," are "a famous writer and director"--Bruce Wagner--and "a prominent Hollywood agent"--Tracy Kramer. "They have been with the sorcerers of this lineage from the beginning, and are known as 'cyclic beings,' who are 'the here and now.' Because of the force of the scouts, every time they present a show, the people they invite are deeply affected. The scouts give the Chacmools minor roles in their theater. The Theater of the Real is for stalkers. They intend the character so totally real that it is truly frightening. Even though the skits are never meant to give offense, they are written by individuals who have examined our social order from an 'energetic' viewpoint. The Blue Scout wrote a skit with me as the mother of a baby who believed her child was a girl. In this particular skit, I gave birth to a huge, grotesque child, played by the Orange Scout. The Orange Scout wore a body suit, diaper and seemed to have no teeth, and rolled around on the floor. I was so frightened by the Scout's appearance I screamed. The two have a conversation, during which the baby's diapers are soiled. I take them off and discover a huge penis that the Orange Scout made that was about a foot-and-a-half long and hairy. I had to bend down and kiss the penis, as the script called for the players to worship the new boy child."


“İki eleman” olarak bilinen Castaneda’nın grubunda ki iki adamdan biri meşhur bir yazar ve yönetmendir - Bruce Wagner – ve “tanınmış Hollywood ajanı” Tracy Kramer. Başlangıçtan beri bu soyun büyücüleri ile birlikte olmuşlardır ve ‘şimdi ve burada’ olan ‘döngüsel varlıklar’ olarak bilinir çünkü Öncülerin gücü her zaman, davet ettikleri bu insanları derinden etkileyen bir gösteri sunar.

Öncüler, Chacmoollara tiyatrolarında küçük roller verirler. Öncüler için tiyatro gerçektir. Onlar karakterlerin tamamen gerçek olmasını niyet eder ki bu gerçekten korkutucudur. Kişiler tarafından yazılmıştır, sosyal düzenimizi “enerjik” bakış açısından sorgular, saldırı yapmak amacında bile değildir.

Mavi Öncü, çocuğunun kız olduğuna inandığı bir bebeğin annesi olarak, benimle beraber bir skeç yazmıştı. Doğurduğum, dev gibi garip çocuğu Turuncu Öncü oynadı. Turuncu öncü, vücuduna bir takım giydi, altbezi ve dişleri görünmüyordu, döşemenin üstündekileri deviriyordu. Öncünün görünümünden çok korktum ve çığlık attım.

İki kişinin sohbeti sırasında, bebeğin bezi kirlendi. Onları çıkardım ve Turuncu Öncü’nün yaptığı bir - bir buçuk foot uzunluğunda ve tüylü kocaman bir penis buldum . Oyunculara saygı için senaryoda yazdığı gibi yeni erkek çocuğun penisini eğilmek ve öpmek zorunda kaldım.



(21)Another skit that Castaneda enjoyed very much was entitled "Gordito, Gordito." It was about a young man, played by the Orange Scout, who stuffed herself in a way that made her look incredibly fat. Gordito goes to a clinic to lose weight. The doctor tells him, "We know how to make a male lose weight. We're going to put you in a room with a healer who will help you." It turns out to be a naked nymph, played by "one of the other Chacmools." The Orange Scout runs after her, "and the deal is, if he gets her, he can fuck her. But the nymph escapes and disappears." An angry Gordito comes back to the clinic, gets a similar routine from the doctor, and this time, when he sits alone in the examining room, out come two naked nymphs. He doesn't catch either of him. So he returns to the doctor and demands that, "this time, he either lose weight or be allowed to fuck the nymphs." The doctor says, "We have just the thing." While he's waiting alone in the room, out comes this Swedish gay man (Kylie) with a huge penis. He begins to chase Gordito and tells him, "If I catch you, I fuck you." Whereupon, Gordito finally loses the weight.



Castenad’nın çok hoşlandığı “Gordito, Gordito” isimli bir başka skeç. Turuncu Öncü’nün oynadığı, inanılmaz bir şekilde şişman görünmesine neden olacak şekilde içi tıka basa doldurulmuş genç bir adamla ilgili. Gordito, zayıflamak için bir kliniğe gider. Doktor ona “ Bir erkeğin nasıl kilo kaybedeceğini biliyorum. Biz seni, sana yardım edecek bir şifacı ile bir odaya koyacağız“ der. İçini dışına çıkaracak periyi, Chacmoollardan biri oynadı.Turuncu Öncü onun peşinden gider, “ve anlaşma şudur, eğer o, onu yakalarsa, onunla sevişmeli. Fakat peri kaçar ve kaybolur.” Kızgın Gordito, kliniğe geri gelir, doktor benzer bir rutinle davranır ve bu sefer, tek başına muayene odasında beklerken, sonunda iki çıplak peri gelir.Herhangi birini yakalayamaz. Bu yüzden doktora döner ve bu defa “ya kilo vermeli veya periler sevişmeye imkan vermeli” diye talep eder. Doktor “bizde bir şey daha var” diye söyler. Böylece, o odada yalnız beklerken kocaman penisli bir İsveçli eşcinsel erkek gelir. O Gordito’yu kovalamaya başlar ve söyler “ Eğer seni yakalarsam, seni sikeceğim.” Ondan sonra Gordito nihayet kilo kaybeder.



(22)Kylie claimed she hadn't gotten over her role in this skit, "which was when my hair was cut to its current [super short] length. I didn't want to play this role, but I would follow the Orange Scout and the rest to the end and beyond." The Orange Scout even calls me "Otto," and makes me put on a mustache and hat and dance the tango with her. "Whoever comes to the six week seminar will get a strong whiff of her tango. The Orange Scout has tango duels with 'Al Cerutti'" (Carol Tiggs), who is an insurance salesman, and "who you wouldn't believe is Carol Tiggs. They intend these irritating creatures so strongly that we have to pay them $175 to make them go away. The scouts won't do anything unless they're paid, saying it's the nature of the universe (although it doesn't matter the amount--whether many dollars or a penny). All the actors perform from inner silence. The other Chacmools are great actors, and Carol Tiggs is a great ham."


Kyle, saçının bugünkü (süper kısa) uzunluğa kesimesinin, bu skeçteki rolü yüzünden olmadığını söyledi. “Bu rolü oynamak istememiştim fakat Turuncu Öncü’yü eninde sonunda takip edecektim. Ayrıca Turuncu Öncü beni “Otto” diye çağırır ve bana bıyık ve şapka giydirir ve onunla Tango yapmamı ister. “Kim altı hafta seminere gelirse, onun tangosunun nefesi güçlü olacak. Turuncu Öncü’nün, sigorta satıcısı olan 'Al Cerutti' (Carol Tiggs) ile Tango düelloları vardır ve “Carol Tiggs olduğuna inanamayacaksınız. Onlar, buna niyet eder ve o kadar çok rahatsız ederler ki onlardan uzağa gitmek için, onlara 175 dolar ödemek zorunda kalırız. Onlara ödeme yapmazsak Öncüler hiçbir şey yapmayacaklarını, evrenin doğasının böyle olduğunu söylerler. ( Miktar önemli değil – yinede birkaç dolar veya penny) Bütün aktörler içsel sessizlikten rol yapar. Diğer Chacmool’lar büyük aktördür ve Carol Tiggs büyük bir acemidir.”



Ve bitti.



benimkide bitiyor,

7. bölüme baktımda, yine sihirli geçişler var. O bölumü çevirmeyi düşünmüyorum, istersen sende incele, çevirmek istediğin yer varsa temize çekerken eklerim,



Öneri olarak Pdf haline getirilmesini önerecektim ama sen zaten düşünmüşsün :) Kilitli bölümde okudum.


Eğer not halinde değil de seminerin tam bir metni olsaydı daha güzel olacaktı. Buna da şükür.


Shalk, çeviri için teşekkür ederim.



Seminerler bitmez :)

Şimdi birtane daha var İngiltere'de, Carol Tiggs'te katılıyormuş. Neyse işte, bize bu denk geldi.


Bende herkeze teşekkür ederim, özellikle sana, Peyote'ye ve desteklerini esirgemeyen Sonsuz'a.



Slhak ve hyau


Çeviriler icin teşekkürler :))



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